{"id":938,"date":"2025-01-15T08:05:00","date_gmt":"2025-01-15T07:05:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lightofmylife.fr\/?p=938"},"modified":"2025-01-15T16:46:34","modified_gmt":"2025-01-15T15:46:34","slug":"gavin-greenaway-john-williams-et-hans-zimmer-sont-tous-deux-victimes-musicalement-de-leur-propre-succes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lightofmylife.fr\/index.php\/2025\/01\/15\/gavin-greenaway-john-williams-et-hans-zimmer-sont-tous-deux-victimes-musicalement-de-leur-propre-succes\/","title":{"rendered":"Gavin Greenaway : \u00ab\u00a0John Williams et Hans Zimmer sont tous deux victimes, musicalement, de leur propre succ\u00e8s\u00a0\u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Il est fort possible que vous ne connaissiez pas son nom. Pourtant, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gavin_Greenaway\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Gavin Greenaway<\/a> a dirig\u00e9 certaines des musiques de films les plus connues de ces trente derni\u00e8res ann\u00e9es. Compositeur et chef d&rsquo;orchestre britannique, il est surtout connu pour ses collaborations avec Hans Zimmer (<em>Gladiator, La Ligne rouge<\/em>,<em> Pearl Harbor&#8230;), <\/em>John Powell<em> (Face\/Off, Happy Feet&#8230;) <\/em>ou encore James Newton Howard<em> (Hunger Games). <\/em>Il a \u00e9galement compos\u00e9 des \u0153uvres originales, notamment des musiques de parcs \u00e0 th\u00e8me comme <em>Illuminations: Reflections of Earth<\/em> de Disney, et dirige des performances live de bandes originales embl\u00e9matiques dans le monde entier. Ce musicien de l&rsquo;ombre se produira \u00e0 Toulon le samedi 1er f\u00e9vrier pour un concert exceptionnel au <a href=\"https:\/\/toulon-congres-neptune.com\/gavin-greenaway-concert-symphonique\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Palais Neptune de Toulon<\/a> o\u00f9 il sera accompagn\u00e9 par la violoncelliste Caroline Dale et l&rsquo;orchestre Azur Symphonic dirig\u00e9 par C\u00e9dric Clef. En attendant sa venue en France, je lui ai demand\u00e9 de retracer pour nous son parcours et d&rsquo;\u00e9voquer son travail dans la grande usine hollywoodienne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><mark style=\"background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)\" class=\"has-inline-color has-vivid-red-color\">ENGLISH VERSION AVAILABLE BELOW<\/mark><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Votre p\u00e8re semble avoir jou\u00e9 un r\u00f4le important dans votre vocation de musicien et de compositeur, pourriez-vous nous dire comment cela s&rsquo;est pass\u00e9 ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Quand j&rsquo;\u00e9tais enfant, mon p\u00e8re (<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Roger_Greenaway\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Roger Greenaway<\/a>) \u00e9tait un auteur-compositeur et producteur actif, et il \u00e9tait \u00e9galement tr\u00e8s demand\u00e9 pour des jingles publicitaires. J&rsquo;ai \u00e9tudi\u00e9 le piano \u00e0 partir de l&rsquo;\u00e2ge de 6 ans environ dans la tradition classique, car mon p\u00e8re a toujours pens\u00e9 qu&rsquo;il aurait aim\u00e9 apprendre lui-m\u00eame \u00e0 mieux lire la musique et \u00e0 jouer du piano (il a \u00e9crit toutes ses chansons sur un ukul\u00e9l\u00e9 t\u00e9nor \u00e0 4 cordes !). Quand j&rsquo;avais environ 14 ans, il a achet\u00e9 un magn\u00e9tophone \u00e0 4 pistes et un micro. J&rsquo;ai commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 enregistrer ses d\u00e9mos de chansons pour lui, et progressivement, au fil des ann\u00e9es, nous sommes pass\u00e9s \u00e0 une machine \u00e0 24 pistes et \u00e0 une table de mixage, et j&rsquo;ai appris \u00e0 produire et \u00e0 enregistrer. Quand j&rsquo;\u00e9tais au Trinity College of Music, on a demand\u00e9 \u00e0 mon p\u00e8re d&rsquo;\u00e9crire de la musique pour une s\u00e9rie de dessins anim\u00e9s pour enfants. Il n&rsquo;avait jamais \u00e9crit pour des images auparavant, mais \u00e0 ses c\u00f4t\u00e9s cela m&rsquo;est venu assez naturellement, et ce furent mes premi\u00e8res exp\u00e9riences d&rsquo;\u00e9criture de musique pour la t\u00e9l\u00e9vision.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Vous avez rencontr\u00e9 John Powell au Trinity College et \u00eates devenus amis, puis vous avez essay\u00e9 de percer ensemble \u00e0 Hollywood, comment l&rsquo;un peut-il soutenir l&rsquo;autre malgr\u00e9 la comp\u00e9tition naturelle ? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>J&rsquo;\u00e9tais d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e0 Trinity depuis un an avant de rencontrer John via le petit \u00ab Electronics Studio \u00bb. Nous avions quelques synth\u00e9tiseurs de la premi\u00e8re heure dans cette salle (Korg MS20, MS50 et un PPG, je crois) mais surtout un professeur tr\u00e8s inspirant, le Dr Glen Morgan. John et moi sommes rapidement devenus de bons amis. Nous nous stimulions mutuellement, en collaboration et en comp\u00e9tition. Nous apprenions l&rsquo;un de l&rsquo;autre et nous nous soutenions mutuellement par des critiques constructives. Plus tard, lorsque nous avions une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 de production musicale \u00e0 Soho, \u00e0 Londres, je terminais les morceaux pour John s&rsquo;il \u00e9tait trop occup\u00e9 et il finissait les morceaux pour moi. Cependant, une fois que nous sommes devenus professionnels, nous \u00e9crivions rarement ensemble, car nous d\u00e9veloppions nos propres styles individuels.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Quand avez-vous rencontr\u00e9 Hans Zimmer pour la premi\u00e8re fois ? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hans aime toujours rappeler \u00e0 moiti\u00e9 en plaisantant que lorsqu\u2019il commen\u00e7ait \u00e0 programmer des claviers pour d\u2019autres compositeurs (comme mon p\u00e8re), luttant pour d\u00e9marrer, mes parents le nourrissaient litt\u00e9ralement. Il venait d\u00e9jeuner le dimanche\u2026 et me montrait ensuite comment programmer des synth\u00e9tiseurs. Il m\u2019a vraiment ouvert les oreilles aux possibilit\u00e9s sonores. Quand Hans est parti pour Hollywood, au milieu de la composition d\u2019une publicit\u00e9, on m\u2019a appel\u00e9 pour la terminer. Conna\u00eetre sa fa\u00e7on de travailler m\u2019a permis de la terminer beaucoup plus facilement de fa\u00e7on fid\u00e8le.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Quand avez-vous choisi d\u2019\u00eatre chef d\u2019orchestre et non compositeur de films, et pourquoi ? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Quand John Powell et moi avons commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 travailler \u00e0 Los Angeles \u00e0 la fin des ann\u00e9es 90, j\u2019avais d\u00e9j\u00e0 compos\u00e9 beaucoup de jingles et une trentaine d\u2019\u00e9pisodes de musique de t\u00e9l\u00e9vision. Je pensais que je continuerais \u00e0 travailler sur des films. Cependant, m\u00eame si je trouvais cela assez naturel, j\u2019\u00e9tais de plus en plus frustr\u00e9 de n\u2019\u00e9crire que pour le cin\u00e9ma, et apr\u00e8s avoir aid\u00e9 en tant que compositeur suppl\u00e9mentaire sur un certain nombre de films (dont <em>Peacemaker, Pearl Harbor et Face\/Off),<\/em> j\u2019ai r\u00e9alis\u00e9 que ce n\u2019\u00e9tait pas mon chemin vers le bonheur. Alors que j\u2019essayais de d\u00e9terminer ce que je devais faire ensuite, Hans m\u2019a confi\u00e9 la t\u00e2che d\u2019\u00e9crire le nouveau spectacle de feux d\u2019artifice du parc d\u2019attractions Disney World EPCOT \u00e0 Orlando, en Floride, <em>Reflections of Earth<\/em> et cela s\u2019est av\u00e9r\u00e9 \u00eatre ma composition la plus populaire. Le spectacle devait initialement durer trois \u00e0 cinq ans, mais il a finalement dur\u00e9 trente ans \u00e0 partir d\u2019octobre 1999.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/lightofmylife.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/GG_at_woven_piano_full.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-941\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lightofmylife.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/GG_at_woven_piano_full.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/lightofmylife.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/GG_at_woven_piano_full-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lightofmylife.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/GG_at_woven_piano_full-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/lightofmylife.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/GG_at_woven_piano_full-850x478.jpg 850w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La direction d\u2019orchestre m\u2019a vraiment trouv\u00e9 \u2013 je ne cherchais pas \u00e0 \u00eatre chef d\u2019orchestre. Toutes les personnes que j\u2019ai rencontr\u00e9es et avec qui j\u2019ai travaill\u00e9 au studio de Hans ont commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 me poser des questions \u2013 m\u00eame si j\u2019avais peu d\u2019exp\u00e9rience en direction d\u2019orchestre, je connaissais tout le processus, je pensais comme un compositeur, et cela permettait au compositeur d\u2019\u00eatre dans la salle de contr\u00f4le et de traiter avec les r\u00e9alisateurs et les producteurs pendant que je m\u2019occupais de l\u2019orchestre. Plus je faisais cela, plus j\u2019appr\u00e9ciais cela. L\u2019une des difficult\u00e9s du m\u00e9tier de compositeur de film est que vous pouvez passer des mois assis seul dans votre salle d\u2019\u00e9criture \u2013 alors qu\u2019en tant que chef d\u2019orchestre, je travaille r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement avec des dizaines de musiciens, une partition typique est enregistr\u00e9e en deux \u00e0 sept jours. Un compositeur tr\u00e8s occup\u00e9 peut \u00e9crire quatre partitions par an, mais je peux diriger trois fois ce nombre et avoir encore du temps pour d\u2019autres activit\u00e9s musicales.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>J\u2019ai \u00e9crit un livre sur John Williams qui est sorti en 2024 (et un autre sur Ennio Morricone en 2020), quelle est votre relation avec ces deux compositeurs ? Vous ont-ils influenc\u00e9 ? Il semble que vous n\u2019ayez pas encore travaill\u00e9 avec JW, pourquoi ? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>J\u2019ai toujours aim\u00e9 les partitions de Morricone. J\u2019admire sa \u00ab saveur \u00bb et son style inimitable. Des westerns spaghetti aux morceaux comme \u00ab\u00a0Gabriel\u2019s Oboe\u00a0\u00bb from <em>The Mission,<\/em> sa musique dit toujours quelque chose avec une forte saveur. De m\u00eame, John Williams est le Maestro. Je ne vois pas pourquoi il aurait besoin de travailler avec moi ! S\u2019il ne dirige pas sa musique, c\u2019est Bill Ross (le meilleur orchestrateur, chef d\u2019orchestre, compositeur et directeur musical de Barbra Streisand) qui prend le relais. J&rsquo;ai eu l&rsquo;honneur de diriger pour Bill \u00e0 quelques reprises, et il y a quelques ann\u00e9es, j&rsquo;ai \u00e9galement enregistr\u00e9 un album avec le LSO des th\u00e8mes de JW, qui comprenait l&rsquo;enregistrement en premi\u00e8re mondiale de <em>La Liste de Schindler <\/em>pour orchestre et violon [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.allmusic.com\/album\/john-williams-a-life-in-music-mw0003158485\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">John Williams: A Life in Music<\/a>, NDLR].<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Comment collaborez-vous avec James Newton Howard, Hans Zimmer et John Powell ? Quel est votre r\u00f4le pr\u00e9cis ? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>James est tr\u00e8s ind\u00e9pendant, j&rsquo;arrive litt\u00e9ralement au studio et nous enregistrons avec l&rsquo;orchestre. La seule chose que j&rsquo;ai \u00e0 dire concerne le phras\u00e9 et des suggestions d&rsquo;\u00e9quilibre, etc. La chose la plus excitante que j&rsquo;ai enregistr\u00e9e avec James a \u00e9t\u00e9 l&rsquo;album <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.discogs.com\/fr\/release\/28736797-James-Newton-Howard-Jean-Yves-Thibaudet-Hilary-Hahn-Maya-Beiser-Night-After-Night-Music-from-the-Mov?srsltid=AfmBOopu5SGEogV50LNtsSg16fYGRVWqFar1Y-0p225pFkPRMxqS-Lmp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Night after Night<\/a><\/em> avec Hilary Hahn au violon et Jean-Yves Thibaudet au piano. Comme ce n&rsquo;\u00e9tait pas pour un film, j&rsquo;avais beaucoup de latitude dans le tempo et l&rsquo;interpr\u00e9tation. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hans me fait une confiance ridicule (je n&rsquo;ai jamais pu comprendre pourquoi !), donc dans le spectacle <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fnac.com\/a20971348\/Hans-Zimmer-The-World-Of-Hans-Zimmer-Part-II-A-New-Dimension-CD-album\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">World of Hans Zimmer 2<\/a>, il m&rsquo;a pratiquement laiss\u00e9 le soin de construire les morceaux que nous avons jou\u00e9s \u00e0 partir de ceux qu&rsquo;il a \u00e9crits pour chaque film. C&rsquo;\u00e9tait amusant et vraiment gratifiant de cr\u00e9er des suites de concert \u00e0 partir de morceaux qui se suffisent \u00e0 eux-m\u00eames en tant que morceaux de musique, avec une forme et une structure musicales que les pistes des <em>scores<\/em> n&rsquo;auraient jamais pu avoir. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>John et moi avons r\u00e9cemment r\u00e9vis\u00e9 un op\u00e9ra que nous avions \u00e9crit ensemble il y a plus de vingt-cinq ans et que nous esp\u00e9rons pouvoir rejouer. De temps en temps, je joue du piano sur ses partitions, mais le plus souvent, comme avec James, la premi\u00e8re fois que j\u2019entends la musique que nous enregistrons, c\u2019est en studio avec les musiciens. Ayant dirig\u00e9 plus de 100 partitions maintenant, j\u2019ai suffisamment d\u2019exp\u00e9rience pour pouvoir d\u00e9chiffrer et diriger \u00e0 peu pr\u00e8s n\u2019importe quelle musique de film qui m\u2019est pr\u00e9sent\u00e9e.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"718\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/lightofmylife.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Concert-Toulon.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-955\" style=\"width:492px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lightofmylife.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Concert-Toulon.jpg 718w, https:\/\/lightofmylife.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Concert-Toulon-210x300.jpg 210w, https:\/\/lightofmylife.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/Concert-Toulon-300x428.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 718px) 100vw, 718px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Pourriez-vous nous parler de vos propres compositions, pass\u00e9es et futures ? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>J\u2019ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 mentionn\u00e9 <em>Reflections of Earth,<\/em> la c\u00e9l\u00e9bration du mill\u00e9naire de Disney. Dans la m\u00eame veine, on m\u2019a demand\u00e9 d\u2019\u00e9crire de la grande musique orchestrale pour l\u2019ouverture des Jeux olympiques d\u2019hiver de Vancouver en 2010. Je suis fier des chansons que j\u2019ai \u00e9crites et produites avec Bryan Adams pour <em>Spirit : Stallion of the Cimaron,<\/em> pour l\u2019une d\u2019entre elles Trevor Horn, producteur mondialement connu des Buggles, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, ABC, Yes etc., a \u00e9crit les paroles. Je n\u2019aime pas particuli\u00e8rement la musique que j\u2019ai \u00e9crite pour le cin\u00e9ma, et il y a environ dix ans, j\u2019ai d\u00e9cid\u00e9 de me concentrer sur la composition \u00e0 petite \u00e9chelle, au d\u00e9part uniquement pour le piano. D\u2019une certaine mani\u00e8re, \u00e9crire une pi\u00e8ce convaincante pour piano est plus difficile qu\u2019une grande pi\u00e8ce symphonique. Juste avant l\u2019arriv\u00e9e de la Covid-19, j\u2019ai sorti un album pour piano pr\u00e9par\u00e9 appel\u00e9 <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.allmusic.com\/album\/woven-mw0003230767\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Woven<\/a>,<\/em> qui est la chose dont je suis, jusqu\u2019\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent, le plus satisfait artistiquement. J\u2019ai pass\u00e9 des semaines et des semaines \u00e0 construire des textures, en utilisant uniquement mon piano droit, pour faire un album tr\u00e8s intime et proche. J\u2019ai \u00e9crit un nouvel album pour violoncelle et piano, dont je jouerai une partie \u00e0 Toulon le 1er f\u00e9vrier, avec une fabuleuse violoncelliste, Caroline Dale. Et plus tard cette ann\u00e9e, j\u2019enregistrerai un album avec le Nairobi Chamber Chorus. J\u2019ai toujours voulu \u00e9crire pour ch\u0153ur, et le son de ce ch\u0153ur du Kenya est si diff\u00e9rent des sons des ch\u0153urs anglais, donc j\u2019ai vraiment h\u00e2te de collaborer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Pourriez-vous d\u00e9crire comment fonctionne la partie musicale de l\u2019industrie hollywoodienne ? Il semble que les compositeurs \u00e9mergents composent parfois de la musique pour un autre compositeur plus connu qui signe la pi\u00e8ce, avez-vous \u00e9t\u00e9 t\u00e9moin de cela ? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>C&rsquo;est un business impitoyable. Il y a beaucoup trop de gens qui essaient d&rsquo;entrer dans le milieu, et qui courent apr\u00e8s trop peu d&rsquo;opportunit\u00e9s. J&rsquo;ai eu de la chance au d\u00e9but, car j&rsquo;ai pu m&rsquo;\u00e9tablir en tant que compositeur sans \u00eatre l&rsquo;assistant \u00e0 plein temps de quelqu&rsquo;un d&rsquo;autre (si l&rsquo;on exclut mon p\u00e8re !). M\u00eame Hans a eu sa premi\u00e8re chance en travaillant pour un autre compositeur, Stanley Myers. Hans a \u00e9t\u00e9 tr\u00e8s dou\u00e9 pour rendre la pareille &#8211; il a lanc\u00e9 et nourri la carri\u00e8re d&rsquo;innombrables autres &#8211; John Powell, Harry Gregson-Williams, Lorne Balfe, la liste est longue. Mais tous les compositeurs ne pensent pas comme Hans et j&rsquo;ai entendu des histoires d&rsquo;\u00e9crivains fant\u00f4mes qui ne rencontrent m\u00eame pas le compositeur qu&rsquo;ils aident, n&rsquo;obtiennent jamais de cr\u00e9dit et ne sont pas pay\u00e9s \u00e9quitablement. Tout d\u00e9pend de ce que vous \u00eates pr\u00eat \u00e0 faire pour progresser dans le m\u00e9tier.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>O\u00f9 vous situez-vous par rapport \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9ternel d\u00e9bat qui r\u00e8gne chez les amateurs de musique de film : l\u2019approche sound design \u00ab \u00e0 la Zimmer \u00bb dans laquelle nous sommes aujourd\u2019hui versus l\u2019approche plus m\u00e9lodique et symphonique qui \u00e9tait la tendance avant le nouveau mill\u00e9naire ? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Les go\u00fbts et les styles changent. Les gens font l\u2019erreur de penser que la musique de Zimmer n\u2019est ni m\u00e9lodique ni harmonique \u2013 elle l\u2019est, elle est simplement pr\u00e9sent\u00e9e diff\u00e9remment. Cependant, copier les techniques et les sons d\u2019un compositeur comme Hans ne suffit pas \u2013 il faut aussi les id\u00e9es musicales \u2013 imiter le style en soi donne une copie m\u00e9diocre, un pastiche de l\u2019\u0153uvre originale. John Williams et Hans Zimmer sont tous deux victimes, musicalement, de leur propre succ\u00e8s. Les compositeurs en herbe copient parfois ces grands compositeurs, au lieu d\u2019essayer de trouver leur propre voix. Ensuite, Hans est injustement accus\u00e9 d\u2019\u00eatre \u00e0 l\u2019origine de la similitude de toutes les partitions. La seule fois o\u00f9 vous devriez penser \u00ab oh, \u00e7a ressemble \u00e0 JW ou \u00e0 HZ \u200b\u200b\u00bb, c\u2019est lorsque l\u2019un d\u2019eux a \u00e9crit la partition ! Cela \u00e9tant dit, je pense que la m\u00e9lodie a sa place dans la narration et les r\u00e9alisateurs s\u2019orientent clairement vers une musique de fond qui ne s\u2019immisce pas trop dans le cerveau du public. Ce qui conduit \u00e0 des musiques de film moins m\u00e9morables.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Un grand merci \u00e0 Gavin Greenaway pour cet entretien et<a href=\"https:\/\/mvprod.live\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"> rendez-vous \u00e0 Toulon<\/a> le 1er f\u00e9vrier !<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cr\u00e9dit photo g\u00e9n\u00e9rale : Dita Vollmond<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>ENGLISH VERSION BELOW<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Your father seems to have played an important part in your vocation as a musician and composer, could you tell how it happened ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When I was a child my father (Roger) was an active songwriter and producer, and he also became in demand for advertising jingles. I studied piano from the age of around 6, in the classical tradition as I think my father always felt that he wised he had learnt to read music better and to play the piano. (He wrote all his songs on a 4 string tenor ukulele!). When I was about 14 he bought a 4 track tape recorder and a microphone. I started to record his song demos for him, and gradually over a few years we moved up to a 24 track machine and mixing desk, and I learnt how to engineer and record. When I was at Trinity College of Music, my father was asked to write music for a series of children\u2019s cartoons. He had never written to picture before, but it came to me pretty naturally, and those were my first experiences of writing music for TV.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>You met John Powell at Trinity College and became friends, then you tried to break into Hollywood together, how does one support the other in spite of the natural competition ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I had already been at Trinity for a year before I met John, via the little \u201cElectronics Studio\u201d. We had some early synths in that room (Korg MS20, MS50, and a PPG, I think) but more importantly a very inspiring teacher, Dr Glen Morgan. John and I quickly became good friends. We would spark each other off, collaboratively and competitively. We learnt from each other, and supported each other with constructive criticism. Later on, when we had a music production company in Soho, London, I would finish cues for John if he was too busy and he would finish cues for me. Though, once we turned professional we rarely wrote together, as we developed our own individual styles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>When did you first meet Hans Zimmer ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hans always like to half-jokingly remind people that when he was starting out, programming keyboards for other composers (like my father), struggling to get started, my parents literally fed him. He would come over for Sunday lunch\u2026 and afterwards show me how to program synthesizers. He really opened my ears to the sonic possibilities. When Hans left for Hollywood, mid-way through composing an advert, I was called in to finish it. Knowing how he worked made it much easier to complete it \u2018in character\u2019.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>When did you choose to be a conductor, and not a film composer, and why ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When John Powell and I started working in LA in the late 90s I had already composed a lot of jingles and 30 or so episodes of TV music. I assumed that I would go on and work on movies. However, although I found it quite natural, I became increasingly frustrated only writing to picture, and after helping out as additional composer on a number of movies (including the Peacemaker, Pearl Harbor and Face\/Off) I realised that this was not my path to happiness. While I was trying to work out what to do next, Hans got me the job of writing the new firework show at Disney World\u2019s EPCOT in Orlando, Florida, <em>Reflections of Earth<\/em> and that turned out to be my most popular composition. The show was originally scheduled to run for 3-5 years, but eventually ran for 30 years from October 1999.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Conducting really found me &#8211; I wasn\u2019t looking to be a conductor. All the people I met and worked with at Hans\u2019 studio started asking me &#8211; although I had little conducting experience, I knew the whole process, thought like a composer, and this allowed the composer to be in the control room and deal with directors and producers while I took care of the orchestra. The more I did of this the more I enjoyed it. One of the hard things about being a film composer is you can spend months sitting in your writing room by yourself &#8211; whereas as a conductor I regularly get to work with dozens of musicians, a typical score is recorded in 2-7 days. A busy composer might write 4 scores a year, but I can conduct 3 times that number and still have time for other musical pursuits.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>I wrote a book about John Williams which came out in 2024 (and another one about Ennio Morricone in 2020), what is your relationship with these two composers ? Did they influence you ? It seems you have not worked with JW yet, why ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I have always loved Morricone\u2019s scores. I admire how much \u2018flavour\u2019 he has, and how unmistakable his style is. From the spaghetti westerns to pieces like \u00ab\u00a0Gabriel\u2019s Oboe\u00a0\u00bb from <em>The Mission<\/em> &#8211; his music always says something with a strong flavour. Likewise John Williams is the Maestro. I\u2019m not sure why he would ever need to work with me! If he\u2019s not conducting his music then Bill Ross (top Hollywood orchestrator, conductor, composer and MD for Barbra Streisand) takes the baton. I have had the honour of conducting for Bill a few times though, and also a few years back recorded an album with the LSO of JW themes, which included the world premiere recording of <em>Schindler\u2019s List <\/em>for orchestra and violoncello.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>How do you collaborate with John Powell, Hans Zimmer et James Newton Howard ? What is your precise role ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>James is very self-contained, I literally just turn up at the studio and we record with the orchestra. The only input I have is over phrasing and suggestions for balance etc. The most exciting thing I recorded with James was the album <em>Night after Night <\/em>with Hillary Hahn on violin and Jean-Yves Thibaudet on piano. Since this was not for a film, I had a lot of latitude in tempo and interpretation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hans is ridiculously trusting of me (I have never been able to work out why!), so on the <em>World of Hans Zimmer 2<\/em> show he pretty much left it up to me to construct the pieces we played, out of the many cues he wrote for each movie. It was fun and really rewarding to make concert suites out of the cues which stand alone as pieces of music, with musical form and structure that the movie cues could never have had.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>John and I have recently revised and opera we wrote together, over 25 years ago, which we are hoping to have performed again. Occasionally I\u2019ll play piano on his scores, but more often, as with James, the first time I hear the music we are recording is in the studio with the musicians. Having conducted well over 100 scores now, I have enough experience to be able to sight read and conduct pretty much any film music I am presented with.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Could you tell us about your own compositions, past and future ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019ve already mentioned <em>Reflections of Earth, <\/em>the Disney Millennium celebration. In a similar vein I was asked to write some big orchestral music for the opening of the Vancouver Winter Olympics in 2010. I am proud of the songs I wrote and produced with Bryan Adams for <em>Spirit:Stallion of the Cimmaron,<\/em> for one of them Trevor Horn, world famous producer of the Buggles, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, ABC, Yes etc, wrote the lyrics. I\u2019m not particularly fond of any music I wrote for film, and about 10 years ago I decided to concentrate on small scale composition, initially just the piano. In some ways writing a convincing piece for piano is harder than a big symphonic piece. Just before Covid hit I released an album for felt\/prepared piano called <em>Woven<\/em> which is the thing I am, so far, most artistically happy with. I spent weeks and weeks building up textures, using just my upright piano, to make a very close, intimate album. I\u2019ve written a new album for Cello and piano, some of which I\u2019ll be playing in Toulon on February 1st, with a fabulous cellist, Caroline Dale. And later this year I\u2019ll be recording an album with the Nairobi Chamber Chorus. I\u2019ve always wanted to write for choir, and the sound of this choir from Kenya is so different from the English choir sounds, so I\u2019m really looking forward to collaboration.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Could you please describe how the musical part of the Hollywood industry works ? It seems that emerging composers sometimes compose music for another more well-known composer who signs the piece, have you witnessed that ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s a cut-throat business. There are far too many people trying to get in, chasing too few opportunities. I was lucky starting out as I was able to establish myself as a composer without being someone else\u2019s full time assistant (if you discount my father!). Even Hans got his first break by working for another composer, Stanley Myers. Hans has been very good at paying back &#8211; he has started and nurtured the careers of countless others &#8211; John Powell, Harry Gregson-Williams, Lorne Balfe, the list goes on. Though not all composers think like Hans and I have heard stories of ghost writers who never even meet the composer they are helping out, never get credit, and don\u2019t get paid fairly. It all comes down to what you are prepared to do to get ahead in the business.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Where do you stand in relation to the eternal debate amongst film music buffs : the sound design approach \u00ab\u00a0\u00e0 la Zimmer\u00a0\u00bb in which we are now versus the more melodic and symphonic approach that use to be the trend before the new millennium ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tastes and styles change. The mistake people make is to think that Zimmer\u2019s music is not melodic or harmonic &#8211; it is, it\u2019s just presented differently. However, just copying the techniques and sounds of a composer like Hans isn\u2019t enough &#8211; you need the musical ideas too &#8211; imitating the style by itself gives you a poor copy, a pastiche of the original art. Both JW and HZ are victims, musically, of their own success. Aspiring composers sometimes copy these greater composers, instead of trying to find their own voice. 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